Ethical dilema

Im setting up a betta tank for my little sister for christmas but have a bit of an issue with where to get the fish from. A shop round the corner from me has some lovely fish BUT they are housed in tiny peanut butter jars. My question is should I buy from them and save the fish from its prison but in the process support a disgusting practice or should I boycott them and at the same time condemn a fish to that sort of existance?

 

I have saved a beautiful purple betta from a peanut jar situation like that, but it was just to sick of sitting in his own wastes that it died in two days. Sulked on the bottom of my tank.:sad2: Not the best idea to do that.

 

I hate places like that, I will not buy from them but usually go to the shop and wait for
someone to ask me if they can help. Then I tell them that I wanted ti buy a betta
but seeing in what conditions they keep them in I won't.

I do this a few times just to irritate them.

 

Hehe nice idea there Vis I might just do the same

 

Hey FishRMan, from ur location I think I know the EXACT place ur talking about, and trust me NEVER buy fish from there, they VERY RARELY last long, I have two places I get my fish from in your area, one's a bit pricey, depending on what u looking for. But both always have excellent quality livestock, PM me if you want the details, coz I don't think we allowed to mention LFS details here in the normal threads

 

I agree with Vis. Unfortunately keeping quiet won't solve this problem. We HAVE to say something. Shops have to know that you refuse to buy fish from them if they do not keep livestock in a clean, healthy and decently sized environment. If everybody starts to speak up about this every time they go into a petshop with these kind of practices the petshop might realise that they are loosing sales because of this and hopefully think twice about keeping animals like this. But if you keep quiet nobody will bother to do anything about it. So please speak out!

 

I think I should start a campaign where everybody here that goes into a petshop
look at the betta setups and if they are bad say they wanted one but is now not going to take one.
Even if they are there to buy food erc anyway and never wanted a betta in the first place.

 

I've given the lps/lfs debate a great deal of thought and don't wish to reboot the discussion. But, I was wondering whether it would be acceptable to inform my locals about this forum? Ask them to refer people to TASA, possibly even make a poster/flyer so that noobs like me can access REAL info? Is that legal or even a good idea?

 

Hi Tracy, yes it is legall and even ecouraged by the people here.
Maybe someone like @TankMaster can design a small card we can print and
give to our LPS's for them to hand out.

 

Sure . .

Maybe a business card size thingy that's printer friendly? Will see what I can get done by the end of the week. .

TM

 

NOW we're talking! I'd be VERY glad to print some! Thanks TankMaster, please let us know when you've managed!

 

Well. ..let me get around laying out these 3 photobooks . .and editing 1500 pics. . lol . .Will have a Black and white and colour version ready by Saturday..

 

i told a chick at a petshop she was going to loose her loaches if she didnt pu them in a heated tank instead of having them inn a tank with goldfish, went back about 2 months later and the horse faced loach had been moved out but the khulis were still in there. i have mentioned this forum to my lfs before and suggested they become a sponsor since they build tanks

 

So now... herewith guilty of both bumping & hijacking!

@TankMaster... which weekend? Wezza goods? I guess you too busy counting those wrigglers!
I've introduced lPs to TASA, need the printouts!

Guys, be patient please! If I can prevent just two more kids from meltdowns, and three more fish from certain death, I'll feel better! (I've restarted the kids that I know about!)

 

Dammit. . .okay . . .dude. . I'm putting something together right now!!!

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ok wait. . .

Give me some suggestions for text that should appear on the design . .

 

@TankMaster: sorry for delay in reply! Been thinking!

How about a twofold approach?
a: a blk n wht ordinary printer page divided into 4, that can be slipped into every new tank (maybe you experienced fellas could even get the whs's to insert?) with something like this:

CONGRATULATIONS on buying your new fish tank!
Do you know: NO! You can't take your tank home, fill it with water & add fish!
NO! Not all fish can live together!

Would you like to know: How MANY fish you can keep?
Which fish live happily together?
HOW to set up your aquarium and look after it?

The ANSWERS are a click away! Visit TASA (details,logo.. etc)

and b:
A simple business card type layout, with just the logo, details, and something simple like:
"Do you have questions about your fish?aquarium?"

Finally, apologies to @FishRMan! Should I carry my crusade elsehwere, dude/mods? Move this if you choose!

 

I like this idea . . . the insert should also include that water straight out of a tap is poisonous to fish and that some species require heaters in their tanks . .

 

Doesnt worry me that its here but perhaps more people would see it in its own thread. I must say I like the idea tho I dont know if lps would allow it. In my experience they make half their money from Joe Knownothing who comes in and they sell 6 gold fish for a 30l then they all die and Joe either comes back for a better filter cos the water got dirty or buys some fish meds for the next batch. the integrity of many lps is WAY down the bottom

 

Yeah, I know! Though its kinda backward logic IMO: by then, a HAPPY Joe with happy fish could be halfway to buying his next setup! Anyhow, my lps has agreed and who knows, if even 10 countrywide did, it may help some folk anyway? But thanks for not minding the rude hijack!

 

I think a simple business card size thing will also work.

Just saying something like Top "TASA" somewhere else "Your free online tropical aquarium cummunity" with TASA's web page.
O and some cool graphics of course.

Just something one can slip into your wallet.